God is indeed the Most Just and all oppressors - whether they be Nazi, Muslim, or Jewish will have whats coming to them in the afterlife.

The generally accepted figures are that about 6,000,000 Jews — 2/3 of Europe’s Jewish pre-war population — were killed in the Holocaust, along with another 5,000,000 others, for a total of about 11,000,000. The other 5,000,000 comprise peoples the Nazis regarded as subhuman (untermenschen), including Roma (Gypsies) and Poles along with Jehovah’s witnesses, priests, nuns and political prisoners. Counted among the 6,000,000 are the tens of thousands of Jews who died of starvation and disease in the ghettos.

The 11,000,000 toll of the genocides do not include the war dead or the tens of thousands of Russian POWs who were executed at Dachau. For anyone who doubts the magnitude or extent of the Shoah or who wants to trivialize it for political purposes, the concentration camps are there to visit. Over one million were killed just in the iconic death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau.

As with John Kennedy’s assassination, you have on the one hand an overwhelming body of evidence, including Nazi records, personal accounts, film of the liberation of the camps in 1945, proceedings of the Nuremburg court, the record of the Eichman trial, etc., etc. and on the other hand, there some crackpots and their conspiracy theories.

By the way, my parents were both survivors, my father the only one from his immediate family who was not killed in the camps. In my extended family, there is one remaining relative still with us who has a slave ID tattoo on his arm.

I believe some Muslims like deny or minimize the Holocaust out of the erroneous belief that the State of Israel was created as compensation for the Holocaust. In that view, if the Holocaust didn’t happen or wasn’t such a big deal, then the Jews don’t deserve to have their own state in their homeland.

Nothing could be further from the truth. For one, Jews were a majority in Jerusalem from the mid-1840s and in the center of the country. The Arabs rejected both the Peele Commission’s 1937 plan and the UN’s 1947 partition plan, both of which would have divided the 22% of the Palestine Mandate territory remaining after the East Bank (Transjordan) was granted independence. Both plans would have established a Jewish state in areas where Jews were the majority and an Arab state where the Arabs were more numerous.

Zionism, as a political idea, is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people; it originated in Europe around the turn of the 19th Century. More generally, Zionism as the desire of Jews to return their ancient homeland has always been a central, animating part of Jewish thought and desires. When times were difficult for them in their exile in the Diaspora, they sometimes turned not just their hearts but also their feet toward home. The 1800s saw Jews settling in Israel. They came from Europe and Russia as well as from Arab countries like Yemen, in both cases to escape persecution.

Between 1948 and 1949, Israel absorbed between 850,000 and 1,000,000 Jewish refugees from Arab and Muslim lands. These Jews had been dispossessed of their property and driven out. One doesn’t hear much about these “forgotten refugees” — even though there were more of them than Palestinian Arab refugees — because, their brethren didn’t abandon them. Unlike the Palestinian Arab refugees, they were not forced to stay in squalid refugee camps and were not denied employment, citizenship and rights so they could be used as pawns in a geopolitical battle.

and why are they so tough on holocaust deniers… um… does that even merit a response. a strong percentage of your religion/race’s population is eradicated from the earth and it is then denied by insensitive people and they should not be “hard” on those people. oh, Lord, why is the Muslim community so dumb sometimes… thank God for Shaykh Hamza…

It’s getting to the point where most of Israel’s citizens were born in Israel. It’s pretty unreasonable to call the destruction of a nation because of something their parents/grandparents did.

Obviously there are issues with occupation and not confining to any real borders, but ‘wiping it off the map’ is an extreme statement that is out of touch with reality. You can’t just kill or displace 6 million people.

Go ahead and boil with hatred.

as for how relevant the numbers are, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that the accepted figures out there are somewhat inflated, what does that really change anyways? something pretty awful happened, whether it was 2 million or 10 million. awful things are happening all over the globe and by denying or minimizing what happened to others why do you expect them to care about other people’s suffering. is the holocaust a sacred cow in some parts of europe, protected by law in ways that other things aren’t … yes, but aside from presenting some very troublesome questions about freedom of expression, in what way does it hinder people getting the truth out about other issues. furthermore, how should we feel about these types of laws? would they be better or worse laws if they were applied to some official story of the jenin massacre?

What the “holocaust deniers”, muslim (and non muslim) really say (imply) … is that 6 millions jews did not get killed … may be 100,000 … maybe a 1 million … ok … lets give them 2 million … but not 6 million …!!

There was barely 6 millions jews in Europe!

Please people … stop being so naive … people deny God … so … ??

What are the europeans/zoinists hiding … why are they so tough on “holocaust deniers” ??? Please think!?!?!?

I used to admire Hamza Yusuf …

someone echoing my very own thoughts.