Holocaust Denial Undermines Islam (By Shaykh Hamza Yusuf)
Published by Haseeb June 28th, 2007 in Current News, Hamza Yusuf, IslamSource: Tikkun Magazine
Epistemology is a branch of philosophy that studies the nature and basis of knowledge. How do we know things? It also studies the veracity of “truth.” How do we know the difference between belief, knowledge, opinion, fact, reality and fantasy? The Greek philosopher, Carneades, believed that knowledge of reality, of what is true or false, is impossible, that nothing can be known with certainty; his philosophy is known as skepticism. It does not reject belief altogether; Carneades felt that our belief about any given matter should be subjected to intense scrutiny and then, using a scale of probability, we should accept or reject the likelihood of its truth or falsehood. But we must make no absolute claims to it. Another Greek skeptic, Cratylus, however, was more radical in his approach and believed that nothing could be known at all, and thus no statements could convey anything true or meaningful. He finally gave up talking altogether.
Most of us are neither moderate nor extreme skeptics; we believe what our teachers told us. Although some of us learned later that perhaps a little skepticism was indeed warranted, we survived with our grasp of reality reasonably intact. We live in a world where facts are meaningful and opinions can be assessed, at least to the degree that we deem them sound or unsound. When it comes to religion, those of us who are raised in traditions often reject such assessments and simply believe what we were taught. For many religious people, skepticism is anathema, the work of the devil. However, our Abrahamic traditions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have always been concerned with and seriously interested in epistemology, because each of these faiths have profound truth claims that need substantiation or “believability.”
Islam, at its advent, developed a sophisticated methodology for the validation of truth claims. One of the greatest achievements of the Islamic scholastic tradition is ‘ilm ar-rijaal, the science of narrators. It is the study of reports of events in the life of the Prophet, especially of his sayings and deeds. Its formulators established a rigid set of criteria to validate the truth claims of those who asserted they saw or heard the Prophet do or say such-and-such. Reports were grouped into two categories: ahad, or solitary reports in which one or a few people claimed to have heard or seen something, and mutawatir, or multiply-transmitted reports narrated in numbers large enough to preclude collusive fabrication. The solitary reports must meet many criteria before being accepted as sound statements that nonetheless contain, depending upon the degree to which the criteria were met, a certain probability of error. On the other hand, firmly established multiply-transmitted reports, in numbers that rule out collusion, are taken as uncontestable fact.
The Quran, the seventh century book narrated by Muhammad, is considered mutawatir, and thus epistemologically undeniable. Whether one believes it is from God or not is another matter, but the Quran in its current form is the same Quran the Prophet taught to his companions more than 1,400 years ago; untold numbers in each generation of Muslims have transmitted the same recitation, making it infallible in its historicity and accuracy. Is-lamic scholars accepted multiply-transmitted reports from Muslims and people of other faiths. Upon this epistemological foundation rests the Muslim faith. Creedal matters are deemed valid only if they are buttressed by multiply-transmitted traditions that can be traced back to the Prophet. Although Islamic jurisprudence is largely based upon solitary evidence (hence the differences of opinion in the various schools), the Quran and the creed of Islam are both founded upon multiple narratives that achieve an undeniable status. Early Muslim scholars would certainly consider much of our current knowledge of history to have achieved such status. For instance, there is consensus among historians that the Normans invaded England in 1066; too many accounts of this momentous event exist and have been recounted in each generation through multiple sources. In the case of any solitary original source, healthy skepticism is warranted. When Lee Harvey Oswald claimed to be a patsy, it led to an entire field of conspiracy studies among Kennedy assassination buffs. Did he act alone or didn’t he? That aspect of the event is debatable. But was John F. Kennedy shot on November, 22, 1963 in a motorcade at Dealey Plaza in Dallas? Far too many accounts of that tragic event exist; to deny it is simply to deny reality and have one’s sanity questioned.
Much of what we know about the world and what we accept as truth comes from multiply-transmitted accounts. Let’s say I claim that Australia doesn’t exist and is merely a figment of our imagination, that its origins lie in a whimsical cartographer in the Middle Ages who decided that such a large ocean needed a land mass. And, when confronted with people who claim to be from Australia and can prove it, I dismiss them as part of a conspiracy of cartographers who wish to perpetuate the myth of their forbearer. I would be laughed at, or ignored, or deemed “certifiable.” While this example seems absurd, many people actually believe things just as fatuous and far-fetched.
Holocaust denial is one such example. As one who has read some Holocaust denial literature, with the poorly reproduced pictures and claims of the orchestration of these scenes in collusion with the U.S. government, I can attest to the tragic gullibility of people who take such literature as historical truth. To return to the Kennedy assassination, if one reads Mark Lane’s version that a rogue element within the CIA killed Kennedy, the “facts” seem overwhelming. But if one reads another version that the Mafia killed Kennedy because of his failure to return Cuba to the gambling lords of Italian America, the “facts” also seem overwhelming. Finally, one can read the version that Mossad killed Kennedy because he wanted to force nuclear inspections in Israel, and again the “facts” seem conclusive. Each of these accounts is presented with utter certainty by the “researchers.” In the end, reality is manipulated to meet the needs of the mythologist.
Indeed, we are each entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts. And those who present alternative versions of “reality” tend to reject everything that does not suit their theory, and cherry-pick and interpret everything—facts, innuendos or “coincidences”—that does.
In the case of the Holocaust, the facts are clear and transmitted from multiple sources. Tens of thousands of Jewish and other individuals who survived the death camps and other horrors of Nazi Germany lived to tell of it. Nazis were brought to trial, evidence was presented in court, and they were convicted. Mass graves were found, and gas chambers were discovered, which were clearly not delicing rooms as some callously claimed. The ovens exist and cannot be reduced to an efficient way of preventing cholera outbreaks or disposing of victims of starvation. I have personally met many Holocaust survivors and their children. I have seen tattoos. I have also heard firsthand accounts of the horrific events. The numbers and details of such events may be legitimate areas of research and inquiry for scholars, but questioning whether the events took place at all undermines the epistemological basis of our collective knowledge. Muslims, of all people, should be conscious of this as their religion is predicated on the same epistemological premises as many major events in history, such as the Holocaust. To deny such things is to undermine Islam as
an historical event. That a “conference” examining the historicity of the Holocaust should take place in a Muslim country hosted by a Muslim head of state is particularly tragic and, in my estimation, undermines the historicity of the faith of the people of that state.
In our inherent contradictions as humans, and in order to validate our own pain, we deny the pain of others. But it is in acknowledging the pain of others that we achieve fully our humanity. A close friend of mine, a professor of religion in a Muslim country for many years, recently told me that his wife, an English teacher in that country, had wanted to use Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl as a text for her Muslim pupils. But the school administrators repeatedly denied her request because they deemed it inappropriate reading for young Muslims. It is sad that the current political morass in the Middle East has led to this intolerable refusal to confront a people’s collective suffering. Perhaps in acknowledging that immense past of Jewish suffering, in which the Holocaust is only the most heinous chapter, Muslims can better help the Jewish community to understand the current Muslim pain in Palestine, Iraq and other places. In finding out about others, we encourage others to find out about us. It would greatly help our Jewish brethren to know the historical facts of Jewish experience in the Muslim world, which are often heartening and humanizing and very different from their European experience. In our mutual edification, we grow together.
Hamza Yusuf is a Muslim scholar, lecturer and author, and the co-founder of the Zaytuna Institute in California, which is dedicated to reviving the traditions of classical Islamic scholarship.
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That was an amazing article. Thank God Shaykh Yusuf addressed this issue because it really annoys the crap out of me the childish way some Muslims act when dealing wiht this issue.
Excellent! Thanks for the post
finally!!
someone echoing my very own thoughts.
I dont think anybody denies the holocaust … in the sense that jews (and others) were killed.
What the “holocaust deniers”, muslim (and non muslim) really say (imply) … is that 6 millions jews did not get killed … may be 100,000 … maybe a 1 million … ok … lets give them 2 million … but not 6 million …!!
There was barely 6 millions jews in Europe!
Please people … stop being so naive … people deny God … so … ??
What are the europeans/zoinists hiding … why are they so tough on “holocaust deniers” ??? Please think!?!?!?
I used to admire Hamza Yusuf …
it’s funny, he never mentions that figure of six million that you are mentioning, and the only context that i have ever heard six million in is as a figure representing the total number of people killed in the holocaust (jews, dissidents, communists, etc.)
as for how relevant the numbers are, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that the accepted figures out there are somewhat inflated, what does that really change anyways? something pretty awful happened, whether it was 2 million or 10 million. awful things are happening all over the globe and by denying or minimizing what happened to others why do you expect them to care about other people’s suffering. is the holocaust a sacred cow in some parts of europe, protected by law in ways that other things aren’t … yes, but aside from presenting some very troublesome questions about freedom of expression, in what way does it hinder people getting the truth out about other issues. furthermore, how should we feel about these types of laws? would they be better or worse laws if they were applied to some official story of the jenin massacre?
While we are on the topic of things that undermine islam… I also think when leaders say “israel should be wiped off the map” it is really doing us a diservice.
It’s getting to the point where most of Israel’s citizens were born in Israel. It’s pretty unreasonable to call the destruction of a nation because of something their parents/grandparents did.
Obviously there are issues with occupation and not confining to any real borders, but ‘wiping it off the map’ is an extreme statement that is out of touch with reality. You can’t just kill or displace 6 million people.
Go ahead and boil with hatred.
saadiq…u have clearly shown what happens when muslims speak with emotion and not logic. what the heck is the strategic benefit of proving that 1 million people and not 6 million people were killed…what a stupid endevour. and how silly to say “europeans” and “zionists” hiding as if they are working together in a game of hide and seek, many europeans are strongly against zionist actions. as far as not admiring hamza yusuf anymore, you are clearly a passionate political activist that has led your justified love for palestine clog your mind…
and why are they so tough on holocaust deniers… um… does that even merit a response. a strong percentage of your religion/race’s population is eradicated from the earth and it is then denied by insensitive people and they should not be “hard” on those people. oh, Lord, why is the Muslim community so dumb sometimes… thank God for Shaykh Hamza…
In trying to downplay the significance of the Shoah by minimizing the numbers killed, Saadiq completely misses the unique and unprecedented character of the Holocaust. There was an entire industry whose purpose was killing people. Machinery was designed and built for the death factories. Running the death camps required a lot of logistics and planning (consider, for example, just scheduling the many, many transport trains) and involved lots of people. There’s no point in quibbling with him about the numbers. The mass exterminations and other atrocities are too well documented — much of the documentation by the Nazis themselves — and there were too many eyewitnesses. Library shelves groan under the weight of survivors’ memoirs. Archives at major universities are filled with videos of survivors giving their oral history.
The generally accepted figures are that about 6,000,000 Jews — 2/3 of Europe’s Jewish pre-war population — were killed in the Holocaust, along with another 5,000,000 others, for a total of about 11,000,000. The other 5,000,000 comprise peoples the Nazis regarded as subhuman (untermenschen), including Roma (Gypsies) and Poles along with Jehovah’s witnesses, priests, nuns and political prisoners. Counted among the 6,000,000 are the tens of thousands of Jews who died of starvation and disease in the ghettos.
The 11,000,000 toll of the genocides do not include the war dead or the tens of thousands of Russian POWs who were executed at Dachau. For anyone who doubts the magnitude or extent of the Shoah or who wants to trivialize it for political purposes, the concentration camps are there to visit. Over one million were killed just in the iconic death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau.
As with John Kennedy’s assassination, you have on the one hand an overwhelming body of evidence, including Nazi records, personal accounts, film of the liberation of the camps in 1945, proceedings of the Nuremburg court, the record of the Eichman trial, etc., etc. and on the other hand, there some crackpots and their conspiracy theories.
By the way, my parents were both survivors, my father the only one from his immediate family who was not killed in the camps. In my extended family, there is one remaining relative still with us who has a slave ID tattoo on his arm.
I believe some Muslims like deny or minimize the Holocaust out of the erroneous belief that the State of Israel was created as compensation for the Holocaust. In that view, if the Holocaust didn’t happen or wasn’t such a big deal, then the Jews don’t deserve to have their own state in their homeland.
Nothing could be further from the truth. For one, Jews were a majority in Jerusalem from the mid-1840s and in the center of the country. The Arabs rejected both the Peele Commission’s 1937 plan and the UN’s 1947 partition plan, both of which would have divided the 22% of the Palestine Mandate territory remaining after the East Bank (Transjordan) was granted independence. Both plans would have established a Jewish state in areas where Jews were the majority and an Arab state where the Arabs were more numerous.
Zionism, as a political idea, is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people; it originated in Europe around the turn of the 19th Century. More generally, Zionism as the desire of Jews to return their ancient homeland has always been a central, animating part of Jewish thought and desires. When times were difficult for them in their exile in the Diaspora, they sometimes turned not just their hearts but also their feet toward home. The 1800s saw Jews settling in Israel. They came from Europe and Russia as well as from Arab countries like Yemen, in both cases to escape persecution.
Between 1948 and 1949, Israel absorbed between 850,000 and 1,000,000 Jewish refugees from Arab and Muslim lands. These Jews had been dispossessed of their property and driven out. One doesn’t hear much about these “forgotten refugees” — even though there were more of them than Palestinian Arab refugees — because, their brethren didn’t abandon them. Unlike the Palestinian Arab refugees, they were not forced to stay in squalid refugee camps and were not denied employment, citizenship and rights so they could be used as pawns in a geopolitical battle.
Thank you for your comment “Fred Calm”. I cant even imagine what your parents went through - and it is very unfortunate that you even have to explain the significance of the holocaust to people like saadiq.
God is indeed the Most Just and all oppressors - whether they be Nazi, Muslim, or Jewish will have whats coming to them in the afterlife.
To deny the Holocaust,is to deny History and most importantly Justice .I think muslims should do what is expected from them-i.e. speak the truth.The Quraan says “Let not your hatred for a people prevent you from justice…Be just that is closer to piety.”The fact that unarmed and totally innocent people were brutally killed should affect the humanity of anybody,if it does not then there is something seriously wrong with us! I personally think that if a people were or are unjustifiably killed,it is not the number that matters but the injustice that has/is being perpertrated that has to be called to account.Allah most certainly will call on you to account to set the record straight.It really does not matter what religious persuasion people follow. Allah
will excercise His justice with Truth.Shukran(thank you). 
Zeek, you need to get your facts straight. these israelis who you claim were born there also hold double passports and spend their time living in their ethnic homelands and visit Palestine “israel” for vacation and want to keep Palestine in jewish hands. the fact that many of them today were born there does not change anything as long as Palestine isent returned to the Muslims and Palestinians given a chance to return home to their cities and villages from which they were forced out.
Those that talk about wiping out the israeli state are not talking about wiping out the jews living there. they are talking about removing the zionist STATE and return Palestine under Islamic control - with jews living in it. To condemn terrorism and holocaust denial doesnt mean you also have to adopt ignorance about the situation and the justification of injustice towards other Muslims - to keep Palestine under zionist jewish control and tell the Palestinians and Muslims to accept this is exactly what that is, injustice and an insult to Islam.
You want the native Palestinians to accept the fact that their country is now under jewish zionist control instead of letting the jews accept that the country will be in Islamic control and the Palestinian refugees coming back to it?
Islam is to prevail, not to be prevailed over.
Islam is what offers a place for both jews and Muslims to live in justice, not zionism that allows jews to fill their swimming pools while Muslims barely are given any water.
meanwhile jewish settlers storm Al Aqsa mosque under protection of the israeli police, they spraypaint anti-Islamic writings on mosques and islamic cemeteries and people like you think that it is something normal that foreigners occupy a Muslim country and control the native Muslims, foreigners that protect those that attack Muslims and Muslim places and want to minimize the Islamic history of the land and focus on its zionist modern history and have opressed the native people for over 60 years and are currently starving 1,5 million of them in the Gaza strip.
to fred:
I don’t have time to point out all the wrong information in ur post.
The fact that you claim that Jews were a majority during the 1840 in jerusalem prooves how you havent updated yourself with information that does not come from those that have a specific political agenda with their histrory views.
The Muslims were the majority in Jerusalem and elsewhere in Palestine by a large percentege up to 1948 and they had been so for a long time, way way before 1840.
and most of the arabic jews left the arab world volunterly to make aliyah, not as refugees, they were not forced out as u try to make it seem.
The fact that oprresive Arab states have not done enough for the Palestinians does not mean that they should have done what you whant them to have done - which is to give them new citizenships and make them forget about their native land and pretend to belong to some other people now.
you seem to be one of those who believe all arabs are the same and carry the same roots when in fact all arab people of today are seperate from each other with the arabic language being the factor that unites them as arabs.
The Palestinians want to return home to their Palestine, their homeland, they dont want to be citizens of a country that isent theirs, a country where their ancestors arent burried, were their ancestors didnt go to school etc.
The arab states are not using the Palestinians for their own benefit against israel, update urself, the arab states couldnt care less about the Palestinians or their own people for that matter, all they care about is their own pockets and securing their power, there is nothing in it for them to use the Palestinians as pawns against israel. i am talking about the leaders of the state meaning those with the real power. Had they used the palestinians as pawns in the political game then they also would have helped them take back their country which they havent and even demonstrations for palestine are not allowed in some arab countries. the arab leaders do not have a interest to take back Palestine so i dont understand how you can pretend the reason to why Palestinians live in refugee camps is because the arab states want to use them for their own political benefit against the state of israel when the state of israel is more of a friend to them then what their own Muslim population is.
Zeek brother, you need to get your facts straight. these israelis who you claim were born there also hold double passports and spend their time living in their ethnic homelands and visit Palestine “israel” for vacation and want to keep Palestine in jewish hands. the fact that many of them today were born there does not change anything as long as Palestine isent returned to the Muslims and Palestinians given a chance to return home to their cities and villages from which they were forced out. no one will oppose the fact that there are jews living there with them in Palestine - that was never the issue. (by the way, the jews in Palestine currently living there is not 6 million , it is less. it has about 5 million jews with israeli citizenship but many of them have double citizenships and live in their native countries but are still recorded as jewish citizens of israel because they have a israeli citizenship and most of the jews living in israel/palestine today live there as SECULARS, not as religious people who want to follow judaism, that is why homosexulaity, prostitutution, human traficiking and loud voices against religion is so common there among the jews - yet they claim they have been given the green light from God himself to do all the misscheaf they are doing.
And another correction for u, Those that talk about wiping out the israeli state are not talking about wiping out the jews living there. they are talking about removing the zionist STATE and return Palestine under Islamic control which forbids what is evil and enjoin what is good - with jews living in it. the only way for peace is By restoring the rights of the Palestinian people and return Palestine on the land of Palestine instead on only (20 percent of it) and that doesnt go hand in hand with killing the jews as you seem to believe.
To condemn terrorism and holocaust denial doesnt mean we also have to adopt ignorance about the situation and the justification of injustice towards other Muslims - to keep Palestine under zionist jewish control and tell the Palestinians and Muslims to accept this is exactly what that is, injustice and an insult to Islam.
You want the native Palestinians to accept the fact that their country is now under jewish zionist control instead of letting the jews accept that the country will be in Islamic control and the Palestinian refugees coming back to it?
Islam is to prevail, not to be prevailed over.
Islam is what offers a place for both jews and Muslims to live in justice, not zionism that allows jews to fill their swimming pools while Muslims barely are given any water.
meanwhile jewish settlers storm Al Aqsa mosque under protection of the israeli police, they spraypaint anti-Islamic writings on mosques and islamic cemeteries and people like you think that it is something normal that foreigners occupy a Muslim country and control the native Muslims, foreigners that protect those that attack Muslims and Muslim places and want to minimize the Islamic history of the land and focus on its zionist modern history and have opressed the native people for over 60 years and are currently starving 1,5 million of them in the Gaza strip.
I think you should remember the ayah in the Quran about the jews in which Allah
swt has said he will send someone against them until the day of judgement (7:167)and he also says that if they return to their sins he will return to his punishment (17:8).
I ate, prayed behind Hamza Yusuf and visited the sick with this guy, yes, called him guy, not so called “Imam” or “Shaykh”. Alas! no more. I will not pray behind this guy now, even if he were to lead muslims in prayer between Hajral awad and maqam Ibrahim at the Ka’aba. Period. (did not call anyone kafir).
After 9/11, I saw his true colors. Now he is a defender and mouth piece of the Zionist, did not say jews. His silence is deafening on the wholesale slaughter of Muslims from Chechnia, Palestine to Iraq. Let this so called sufi imam enjoy his expensive neighborhood of Danville,CA.
Amazing. Let it be for the record, as a Muslim, I do believe that if one jew is killed because of being a jew, it is one jew too many; numbers as we know, are always distorted by everybody. The golden era of jews in diaspora was in Spain under Muslims. He knows it, Muslims do not hate jews. Why Hamza Yusuf never speak against Israeli state sponsored terrorism by murderous terrorist IDF?. This guy really disgust me now. I will spit in face when next I see him.
I leave you with Surah al Buruj verses 6-9. on the callousness muslims face today.
Ref: “Holocaust Denial Undermines Islam (By Shaykh Hamza Yusuf)”. I was astounded that you remove my posting. So called freedom of expression that you espoused. I never call Hamza Yusuf Kafir or what he says is kufr. Look at many of the postings you left up, called him just that. I might said, I will spit in his face but that just blowing air, of course, I have more civility to go that extreme. Oh well, having went over your site a little more, I discovered, it is pretty much dedicated to Hamza Yusuf, should have know. Wasalam.
As a Jew myself with a Muslim partner, it brings great pleasure to read such a noble article.
Unfortunately prejudice on all sides prevents us from seeing the truth.
I can only hope more people will realise that not ‘all’ Jews or ‘all’ Muslims are the same. Extremism is on all sides.
In response to some of the comments: I have relatives that have been living in Israel for many years; since the Holocaust began. Where are they now meant to go if we let in the Palestinians? I have many strong ties with Muslims, and indeed also some Palestinian Muslims, often built during my endeavours to seek peace in the Middle East. What is done now is done, but the dilemma for us now, and for future generations is what do we actually do in order to provide sufficient homes and space for both Israelis & Palestinians.
I think the key here is to reject prejudice that one may have towards Israelis or Jews, but instead work with them in accordance with the belief that we have work together in order to achieve peace. I don’t see Israel being wiped off the map, I don’t see Palestinians stopping their fighting until they redeem some land. Working together is the only way possible; so instead of concentrating on statistics & he-said-she-said, lets focus on the bigger picture.
Thanks.
Excellent Article Mr Yusuf
You have correctly pointed out that Muslims are being emotive when they deny Holocaust, At the same time I would like to highlight the fact that this particular syndrome exist in most knowledgable of human beings.
How many Christians, who really asociate themselves with community would be able to accept the fact that Jews were persecuted harshly during christiandom?
How many Muslims would be able to accept the fact that Dhimmis weren’t equivalent to Muslim in a Muslim rule or that many times these muslim rulers persecuted Jews, though this treatment was nothing as compared to christiandom.
How many Jews would be able to call the situation in Palestine equivalent to Holocaust? and How many would be able to call Israel an apartheid state?(Though in recent times many intellectuals from Ben Gurian university have called for its boycott)
How many Muslims would be able to accept that Hindus were persecuted in Indian by Muslim rulers or that Kashmiri Pundits were made to give up their land in Kashmir?
How many Hindus would be able to accept the fact that Muslims of India have been discriminated consistently or Kashmir is an illegal occupation or that Mr Jinnah was demonized.
The list is long for each of us Humans, Albeit I must add recognizing this syndrome(which you have beautifully presented) is first step of fighting it.
@Zeek
You information is wrong bro. That statement didn’t came from Ahmadinijad, that was western media manipulation, the idea was same to demonize Iran and Muslims.
As an Israeli I can tell all you Muslims that anti-Zionism is anti-semitism.Hamza Yusuf is not very honest with the truth about the second class status of Jews in Arab lands or how they would live under ANY Islamic state. So to all of you that don’t hate Jews just Zionists I say, “I don’t hate Muslims just Islam/Islamism!” An see how loud you start moaning.
There was never a “Palestine” or “Palestinian” people I propose you Muslims do a bit of reading instead of sticking your heads into the sand so to speak. Nearly 40% of Israeli’s are of Arab Ancestry non-Jewish Arabs in Israeli have full rights and better rights than they do in any of the 22 Arab states.
And lets not forget the nearly 1 million expelled from Arab lands nearly $200 BILLION of their property was seized which Israel absorbed. Have your Arab Muslim brethren done the same to their “Palestinian” brothers? No. They’ve just been treat by Arabs like dirt and used as pawns.
The just look at how the Jordanians slaughtered thousands 20,000 Palestinians in Black September. I don’t hear a peep out of the Muslims or how they are still treated by their Arab neighbours. Why are they not given full citizenship rights in their Arab countries?
The fact is the Fillistines/Philistines/Philistina are long dead and were not even Arabs but Greeks. Using the modern day “Palestinians” when they are just generic Arabs won’t work don’t confuse etymology.
Last but not least you wonder why the “Palestinians” live in squalor and they are not able to build any resemblence of a civil society - where have the BILLIONS gone from the US, EU and Arab countries - five star hotels, Swiss Bank accounts and weapons I suggest to you.
Just look when Israel withdrew from 100% from Gaza they fired more rockets into Israel proper and didn’t try to even build some kind of normal civil society
We are too soft with “Palestinians” our traitor government are too scared of what the world will think, I say expel the lot and the Arabs in Israel should take an oath of loyalty or leave. There are 22 states to go to or 56 Muslim countries. Yael you are a traitor Yimach shmo vezichro!
asalamaulaikum bro was just wanting to ask you what claim do the islamics have to the jewish prothets?
Your site was extremely interesting, especially since I was searching for thoughts on this subject last Thursday.
-Robert Shumake
hamza yususf make a lot of sense to me…his philosophical depth in islam and semantic analysis is amazing…so what he is a moderate voice…i accidently fell on his videos on you tube sometime back and have been hooked since then…but i fail to understand the ‘hamza baiters’…i think he is an asset to the muslim community but why is he been derided….is there something i need to catch up on him coz i find him very meaningful, enlightening and also influencing…