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UPDATE: PART 2 This Thursday!:
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hmm.. is this a real problem? Maybe sisters are just too picky? They cant all expect to find Muslim Dr. McDreamy’s or Isam Bachiri out there… or maybe brothers should start finding 2nd or 3rd wives? (im obviously joking)

Source: MeccaOne

“I’ve noticed in our Muslim communities that there are plenty of single, religious, educated, Muslim sisters, yet there is a great lack of like-minded brothers available for marriage. Thus, we have sisters in their late 20’s and 30’s who desire to get married but cannot find a suitable prospective.”

- A sister

Why do you think this is the case? Is it due to the Muslim brothers not bothering about the Deen so they are not at par with active, religious sisters? Or do you think it’s a demographical problem? What do you think?

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34 Responses to “MeccaOne Presents: MUSLIM GUY SHORTAGE!? w/ Imam Zaid Shakir… & others”

  1. 1 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    I think I would probably disagree with the general notion about sisters being too picky. Let’s look at it from a realistic point of view. Suppose there is a sister, REALLY good Muslimah, and has taken her deen seriously. Ok, and Islam just doesn’t come by itself. Islam is a WHOLE package. Usually, Islam comes with good discipline, and a good lifestyle and all these will help her achieve the best of the world, as well.
    So, let’s say she is also highly educated, and that is also because of Islam and her really serious Islamic lifestyle. So given the situation, it is VERY realistic and natural that she would not want to marry someone who can’t live upto her standard. So it is NOT about her being picky, but more about her being cautious and finding a “compatible” man.
    And as your friend (Saad) mentioned before that, we just do not have nearly as many brothers that are serious about Islam. Isn’t it kindof scary and shocking and disheartening to see at least 51% of the Muslim brothers are indulging in haram stuff (girlfirends, alcohol, CRAZY facebook/myspace pictures exposing their wrong doings). You got lucky to be at Stony Brook, and I hear the Muslim community is really good there. But I think (in my experience) majority of the college campuses are filled with more serious MUslimahs, and a bunch of loser type “mozlem” brothers. If a girl doesn’t want to marry a guy because if his unislamic activities, you couldn’t call it being “picky”. You should get married to a man who would help raise a “MUSLIM” family, not some thug.

    And another serious issue is that the seemingly serious religious brothers are not so much into marrying a religious sister. Brothers, even with their own personal Islamic pratices, still look for the type of women that would be “popular” by the definition of the “time” or “west” or “culture”. Since we don’t have as many good religious brothers (proportionately) in the first place to begin with, and on top of it, many religious brothers do NOT want a religious sister (they hope to change her after marriage, but before marriage, so-called religious brothers ask to date there days) , what do you think is going to happen?

    ANd then there is this popular cult: go back to palestine/pakistan to find the perfect submissive wife.

    Sorry about ranting here…. it’s just been too long that I hear “sisters are too picky”!
    I know you were joking, but MOST people ain’t joking when they say it. Being a practising muslim woman in America is hard enough, and on top of it, if the society asks us to settle for scummy people, I don’t know how our ummah will progress?

    Thanks for the heads up about Imam Zaid Shakir’s lecture. :)
    *I apologize if I sound contentious. That was NOT my intention!* :)

  2. 2 slaveofGod from: Canada cayour flag

    i personally think that brothers who try to follow the deen, realize the importance of getting married earlier (in their early 20s) and look for sisters in the same age category…

    this has happened to me and many of the bros i know.

  3. 3 Not related to this topic - sorry from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    Assalaamualaikum,

    Sorry I didn’t know where to post this where people could see this, but please be careful of Barack Obama - he;s in with AIPAC: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml and as we all know AIPAC aren’t exactly pro-palestinian, so please don’t support him, he supports the killing of palestinian children.

    Fiamaanallah,
    Abu Funza

  4. 4 Usma from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    I think it is a bit more complicated, but maybe thats because we complicate things ourselves..?

    Anyway, why do people assume all sisters want a Doctor-hubby?

  5. 5 Good from: United States usyour flag

    Well it has been an age old and time old phenomena of women in general being picky, not just religious women but women in general.

    And yes they are. No deniable fact.

    Having religious guys, defining religious is so relative and not set in stone.

    If a woman wants a guy that is beyond pray five times a day, works hard, makes halaal money, doesnt drink/date, tries to follow the sunnah, is beng picky.

    Women want guys that want beards, know this and that, have a complete religious persona.

    For that, even though Haseeb was joking,

    but I am aallll for polygamy.

    Our community with brothers in the 20s and 30s who ARE religious and good looking should seriously consider polygamy.

    that solves some problems (problem of splinsterhood).

  6. 6 Mujahideen Ryder from: United States usyour flag

    Alhamdulillah!

    Thank Allah (SWT) for everything I have. Alhamdulillah!

  7. 7 Usma from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    Some words from Imam Suhaib Webb on this issue (DeenPort):

    “Salam’s to all,

    I think many times we fail to look at the sociological realities surrounding the issue:

    1. An increased sense of autonomy and egocentrism are one of the greatest culprits. I blame this on a steady diet of popular culture. Thus, instead of looking to give something in a relationship one is looking to get. However, the Prophet (sa) said, “Islam is to feed others.” And, “To initiate the greetings of peace.” Thus, our faith is about instigating goodness. However, the opposite holds true for many of todays young people. Thus, welcome to “Generation ME”: http://www.courierpress.com/news/2007/mar/04/todays-teens-will-the-real-generation-y-please/

    Thus, besides all of the other normal components I would ask questions like:
    1. What type of music do yo listen to? If the answer is nothing that is the best. However, if the answer is yes then I would be a little concerned about marrying my daughter to a religious man who listens to misogynist hip-hop and plays equally disturbing violent video games. Just as I would be concerned with marrying my son to a woman who makes her nightly ‘itikaf in front of sharukh khan and ashrawiy rai (sorry for the spelling.) And does her daily tawaf at the local mall.

    2. Finally, the lack of any type of religious and family pre/post family support system. for example, in Malaysia they have a two week course on the fiqh/marriage counseling. One must pass it before he/she can get his/her nikah done. I planned to introduce something like this in my community, but, alas, I’m here in Egypt.

    May Allah (SWT) give us all tawfiq, nur and rushd in our marriages and bless us with children that will be imam’s for the pious.

    Suhaib

  8. 8 Crooked Sniper from: United States usyour flag

    Alhamdulillah! I am not as religious as my fiance, but I am so happy that she chose me. She saved my life by showing the right path. Why dont sisters marry guys and show them the right path of iman?

  9. 9 Danya from: United States usyour flag

    Some of the comments here really disturb me :(
    Talking about a women being picky if she wants to marry a guy who goes above and beyond the basics of the deen? That’s ludicrous! In case you brothers you forgot, when a girl gets married she is leaving her LIFE and FAMILY for this man and if things don’t work out, it gets ugly– it better be worth it! Marriage is not some sort of trial and error and if it doesn’t work out, oh well. There is a lot at stake. Perhaps some sisters can push their fiancees to be more religious, but what if things go in the other way? What if he pressures her? What if out of lack of God fearing ness he abuses her?

    If I had a choice between getting into a bad marriage and never get married at all, I’d choose the latter. I am NOT taking chances. Of course I would like to get married one day and it’s not like I look forward to live a singlehood forever, but some women are really put in that position to choose like that and it’s tough call and rather unfair.

  10. 10 Only One from: United States usyour flag

    Love is very strong. It has the ability to change pple. There have been so many Wars bcoz of a woman/love (eg. the trojan war). Sisters have the power of love.

    If the sisters can show the brothers the beauty of islam, the love of Allah (SWT) subhanahu taala, and the path of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) sallalahu alaihi wasallam, why the brothers wont understand ?

  11. 11 Danya from: United States usyour flag

    Oh, and Shaykh Hamza Yusuf told us one once that one of the signs of day of judgment is that the men will be frivilous and the women will be serious. Looks like we’re getting close…

  12. 12 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    If a woman wants a guy that is beyond pray five times a day, works hard, makes halaal money, doesnt drink/date, tries to follow the sunnah, is beng picky.

    I think we are seeing the days where taking the hadith of the Prophet (pbuh) is in fact being picky. The prophet professed to look for taqwa in a guy. The Prophet (pbuh) also made it clear that a guy needs to take financial responsibility of a family.

    And, we just accuse these women for wanting what prophet taught them to, of course they are picky. Of course, we are Muslims (women) and of course it is a crime and it shows arrogance when we look for a pure Muslim man. For far too long, looking for a pure man has translated into looking for a rich doctor.

    At times like this, I want to cry, not because of the anticipated future of many Muslim women never getting the pure men they deserve, but the fact that, we collectively, as an ummah, are at such crises. My breaks my heart that we are in such a time and generation where we will have to see these in our brothers, and then we wonder what is wrong with our ummah, collectively oppressed by the people of other faith!
    Maybe, it’s about time we need to look in the mirror. Muslim men have accused women for almost everything that is going wrong in the family life. Maybe it’s about time that men should ask about that standard of life: not talking about $150K salary, but talking about the inner dimension. Why do we even call ourselves Muslims?

  13. 13 theone from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    It’s ridiculous. What makes sisters think that they even deserve the hard working rich Muslim doctors out there? Get over yourselves, if you cant accept a guy that is sincere and wants to follow the straight path and live a halal way of life, then yes you are to blame for being single. If sisters put the same amount of effort into helping their husbands/brothers becoming better Muslim men, as they put into whining, then we wouldn’t have such problems!

  14. 14 Aman Ali from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    …….yikes!

    So many gender battles…. and the war of marriage has not even begin yet…

    I will appreciate my bacthelor life while it still lasts…

  15. 15 Only One from: United States usyour flag

    Yes the sisters are picky when it comes to marriage. They want a Prince from heaven to come down to earth and fulfill every desire they have, and mould to their lifestyle. First of all they become mature in thinking earlier than brothers, and its a burden to digest their thought process and meet their expectations. Why cant sisters take it easy, be practical and come out of fairyland.

    Yes, our Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) (pbuh) said that the guy should take responsibility of earning for the family. But is that practical? Will the sisters be happy with whatever is given to them?
    I am not generalizing. I know there are sisters who are very good. But look at the majority. A brother for marriage is judged by his status, his income, his position, his looks, his iman, his stability, behaviour, his family, MUSIC preference and….whatnot.

    What if all brothers want their wifes to be fairies and totally perfect. Whats is wrong if brothers expect sisters to help them in running the family. Life is not exactly the same what it was in 700 A.D. Today to buy a house you would need about half a million dollars. To do an MBA from a reputed univ would be around 100k.
    Is it gunaah to want to live in a decent home? Or is it expecting too much to give your children a better education? Or shall we just think that this is just a journey and the real life lies after death, and live on the footpath and give no education to our children by marrying 3 wives and having a dozen children (while we wait for death)?

    * I do not mean to offend anyone… just an healthy argument :P

  16. 16 Salman from: United States usyour flag

    I think stereotyping (i.e. “sisters are too picky” or “most brothers are doing haram things” is wrong). I’m no expert, but I can talk from my experience. Alhamdulillah, I take pride in Islam and I am a practicing a muslim and have been so since I was 14-15 years old. I’m not perfect in my deen (no one is), but I do pray 5X, go to Jummah regularly, observe Ramadan, and only eat zabihah meat (for example). And still, i have found it VERY hard to find a muslim sister who is religious and was born & raised in the US (or even UK) like me. I’d prefer a girl who was born in the west and has strong religious values. But, the ones i talked to really seemed to be picky. I’m not generalizing all girls, but talking about the ones I have met and talked to. I’m currently in medical school, and I have girls who openly criticized me for not going to “enough muslim conventions or meetings” or not going to enough “islamic classes” (like Al Maghrib for example). And I even had some muslimahs who were “mad” at the fact that I wasn’t finished with medical school yet. You know I echo the sentiments of an earlier poster who said that religious muslim males want to get married sooner (and ward off haram feelings). That was my intent (Allah (SWT) (swt) is my witness). But, it has saddened me that things haven’t worked out with the few girls I talked to (in an Islamic way… no dating involved). It seems like most of the girls would be understanding enough to be with a guy while he is working and studying & help “support” them morally through this tough time. I see many Caucasian women & non muslim women do this for other male members in medical school.

    So in short, I’m sure there are good girls out there who are not “picky”, but there also girls out there who are “too picky” and I think you are seeing that with the fact that many muslimahs are in their late 20’s - 30’s and not married yet. It is a saddening fact. I don’t even have time to actively “look” for a rishta… but I’ve taken a realistic view of things and i’ve actually started to listen to my mom’s idea of getting a girl from Pakistan.

    It is not to get a submissive woman like someone earlier posted. But, it is to get a muslimah that is serious about marriage and would stick with you through a marriage (through the obstacles people face). Sadly, I have not found a muslim girl in the US who fits that standard. May Allah (SWT) (swt) grant us his favor and make our lives easier. Ameen

  17. 17 sister from the UK from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    i missed this event. does anyone know where I can listen to the repeat? i can’t find it on the MeccaOnline site?

  18. 18 also from: United States usyour flag

    true brother Salman,

    Muslim girls brought up in Muslim countries are prepared to live married life and are much much mature than picky Western(American or European) girls.

    It is a fact.

    Sisters Seeker and Danya totally missed my point about what I was trying to say.

    The fact of the matter is that sisters are too relativistic in their use of the terms of a religious person.

    A person who prays five times a day and takes financial responsibility seriously is enough and sister Seeker do not tell me the meaning of Rasool SAW hadeeth.

    It is not specific to what girls that are picky define waht they want.

    Girls want bearded guys, a made up man and that is not what youa re going to get.
    Women in muslim countries are real women

    they know how to make and mold their men and they in fact do.

    Beard is just facial hair and it can grow anytime. Sisters need to focus on the bigger things.

    Taqwa? their are clean shaven hard working praying five times a day not knowing whole fiqh lessons that have more taqwa but apparently sisters are going to brush them aside

    because they are not cool enough. THey dont recite quraan outloud. GIve khutbahs.

    Wear this and that kufis, give speeches.
    They are not hot, are you kidding me

    they are boring men that want to marry and settle down.

    How dare they even ask you for marriage, you are soooo not their type and they are sooo not your type.

    And if that is the case ladies.

    I say bring back teh POLYGAMYYYYYYYY

    bring it back, if you gonna be picky.

    Too many young single women can resort to lesbianism,

    and we dont want that.

    Better be an unhappy boring marriage with the opposite sex,

    then an independent gay idiot.

  19. 19 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    Salam “Also”
    I am not sure why I (and Danya) am being some sort of target of your (almost hate) speech. I am not sure where I even mentioned the word “beard”. I just quoted what you had said, assuming you are “also” as well as “good”.

    I quote the words again:

    If a woman wants a guy that is beyond pray five times a day, works hard, makes halaal money, doesnt drink/date, tries to follow the sunnah, is beng picky.

    If I have kept myself pure, why would I want to marry someone who didn’t preserve himself? If the person doesn’t make “halaal” money (even if it is WAY below the median income of the country/state) why would I want my children to consume haram? If I have been working so hard all my life, why would I want to settle for someone who is not as hard working? Afterall, he needs to be a good example for the future generation, no?

    I have seen in my own family that women had to take off their hijab b/c their husbands were embarassed to present them as their wives. Why would I want to compromise my deen just because of an entity called “husband”? Allah (SWT) is enough for me, and we don’t need a husband who wouldn’t help us grow as good muslims, but rather hurt our deen.

    I don’t know why you even brought such foul things like lesbianism? And who was asking for a “hot” man?

    they know how to make and mold their men and they in fact do.

    SubhanAllah! Why would we ever want to mold a man? I would help anyone to be a better person, just like I would ask anyone to help me become a better person! But, I never want to have such a low opinion of any brother that I would want “mold” him.

    I am purely wasting my time here. I think there is a lot to learn from this thread/discussion. And I don’t think this matter really deserves my time or clarification.

    However, I appreciate how brother Salman addressed his issues. A lot of it has to do with not being able to make decisions by ourselves. A lot of it has to do with not having a reliable Wali (for women) who could help her out. Fathers and brothers in an immigrant families could be way too caught up in cultural expectations and hence could fail to help out when they get blind sighted about whether or not the prospect is from Panjab or Peshwar or Hyderabad and whether or not he is a pure pathan or half pathan.

    Lakum deenukum wal ya deen!
    :S
    I apologize for taking up so much of your comment space, Haseeb.
    JazakAllah khair….

  20. 20 Haseeb from: United States usyour flag

    No need to apologize, seeker. I appreciate your comments. & Wa jazak

    Its easy to come up with general problems and place blame here or there - yes some sisters have unreasonable expectations, yes some parents are culturally backwards, yes alot of brothers are immature, etc. - but the fact of the matter is that this is a communal problem, and requires a communal solution.

    I actually share alot of the sentiments as expressed in this discussion (particularly that of Salman’s), and I welcome this discussion. However as far as that homosexuality comment goes - wow, umm thats a little out there… to say the least.

    Sister from the UK: Inshallah I will post the entire audio show as it was broadcasted last thursday when it becomes available.

  21. 21 also from: United States usyour flag

    okay, Seeker misread or understood the quote.

    The quote meant to say that is the least any woman should expect, anything beyond that is picky.

    And no the comments about gay thing is not “out there.”

    because that is precisely why marriages are encouraged. Too many single men in muslim countries have resorted to homosexuality, it is a fact stated in articles, newspapers, etc.

    I am not saying anything new here and teh same could be said about women as well.

    The stories seekers listed are sad indeed and I am not referencing about them anyways.

    Nicely put summary, Haseeb.

  22. 22 also from: United States usyour flag

    p.s: molding is not really pertaining to having a low opinion about someone, it is just fashioning the person to your liking.

    if brothers are too embarrassed that tehir wives wear hijab, then they should mold them into, for eg. wearing kufis.

    It can be done and it is not to imply any less of a person the other is, just mis informed and ignorant.

    Your commenting about my comment as being “foul” is unfounded. I am simply stating the dissastrous consequences of a picky society of marraige less women, which by the way is not entirly far-fetched.

  23. 23 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    I don’t know why I am commenting back. But, “also”, maybe you should re-read your comment and see how much anger and disrespect it showed.

    I am sorry if I misunderstood the quoted verse. But, looking for a guy’s deen, that goes beyond the ‘necessary” step as you have described is still probably not being picky. A woman has the right to “pick”. If your (not your personally but like in general, I am saying) baseline standard is already low, of course what is a “necessity” could be interpreted by “high” by them. For example, when someone goes to school, s/he is aiming for A, B or C. If you start off with a C-grade in your head, someone who is motivated to get the A would seem like a crazy person to you. Similarly, running hot water and washer-dryer is a necessity in a country like United States, however, it’s a pretty big deal back in Pakistan, so before you put a blanket statement like “allt he western women don’t know how to be wives and stuff… you need to put yourself in that same vantage point to see their point of view. I guess, from what I gather, or at least from this discussion is that, some sisters have high standards and many brothers simply cannot keep up with that. It’s not that sister’s problem.

    I still think bringing up the topic of homosexuality when you addressed your comment so personally directed to me (and Danya) is offensive. Not only for me, but for many other single people that are trying to stay chaste, BOTH men and women. Your sexual urge can be controlled. Marriage is NOT only about trying to overcome the sexual tension. I take offense in your insinuation that people become homosexual b/c they can’t find anyone to marry. I know plenty of good people, both brothers and sisters, that are single for very legitimate reason. Many brothers are in their thirties and not being able to marry b/c they don’t earn so much and primarily they are trying to support their parents first. Our Prophet didn’t get married until he was 25. And I have seen freshman in my college asking to get married b/c it’s so hard for him to stay chaste! But was that practical, given that he has no income whatsoever?

    And I think the word “moulding” if I am not mistaken. Anyway, I hope some brother here would find the idea kind of sad and crude that brothers need to be “moulded” by their wives. I amalready moulded in my best shape for the sake of Allah (SWT). ANd the brothers should be too. Neither Allah (SWT) nor the Prophet ever said that wait till get married and straighten things up oin your life. You should be able to handle your life without the spouse. Of course s/he should make it easier and happier. I just think that the idea of moulding someone so that the other person changes her/his personality, opinions and everything is a bit disrespectful. But of course without a clear sense of self-respect, it would be hard to understand I am trying to to say.

    In this whole discussion, only Brother Salman talked about something that could be interpreted as sisters being picky. Otherwise, I am sorry I couldn’t really sympathize any brother here.

  24. 24 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    also about “homosexual” people. Many of them (at least the ones I met, from the “FATIHA” group, these group of “MUSLIM” homosexuals in the US”) are homosexuals simply b/c they are attracted to the same sex. So your insinuation that people becoming gay and lesbians b/c they can’t marry anyone is really a bit ignorant. Why people become homos is a whole different filed of ongoing research.

    May Allah (SWT) guide us all and keep us from haram.

  25. 25 Anonymous from: United States usyour flag

    You know, a couple months ago, I might have joined in saying sisters are picky, etc. I’ve thought a lot about this subject and at the end of the day I don’t know how valuable a debate like that would be.

    I do want to say I’m sorry for all these sisters not able to find good Muslim husbands. From my personal experience, I’ve met many good brothers in my life, really good brothers MashAllah, and I don’t know why they’re not better known in the community, but it’s true, we could all improve. I don’t think it’s too much for someone to be looking for someone who “prays five times a day, works hard, makes halaal money, doesnt drink/date, tries to follow the sunnah ” and I wish our character and our actions of us bros keeps becoming more in tune with the teachings of Islam just so we’d have a better shot at forgiveness on the Last Day. InshAllah i’ll keep making dua for you all.

  26. 26 Monaia from: Saudi Arabia sayour flag

    Danya and seeker May Allah (SWT) bless you both, you said exactly what i wanna say!

  27. 27 Neutral from: United States usyour flag

    Assalamu Alaikum to all brothers and sisters. After reading through this heated debate I have thought long and hard about what women expect in men AND vice versa. Through personal experience I can tell you that no matter where you are in the world, men and women’s standards of marriage are basically the same, whether you live in America, Europe, Africa, or the Middle East. Women want a man with a strong backbone who can be an ideal MUSLIM father and husband, and men want a supportive wife by their side. It takes both halves to make a whole. When I mean Muslim I mean someone who follows the five pillars of Islam and the six pillars of Iman. If he follows these then the rest of his character falls into a place, and the same goes for women. The level of Iman demanded depends on the spouse seeker. For instance, a religious sister who listens to Outlandish can’t turn down a suitor who listens to hip hop (as long as it’s not immoral and defies Islam.) There has to be a mutual bond between two people and they have to meet at the same level. There is one person who mentioned that his fiancee helped him see the right path. MAshallah and Alhamdulillah I am happy for him. Inna Allaha Yahdi Men Yashaa’. I firmly stand on this belief and and I also believe in naseeb, so whatever happens it happens with the will of Allah (SWT) Subhanahu wata’ala. Nobody is perfect and I keep making du’aa that we will all be guided toward the tight path and into aljanna Inshallah.
    As for the whole homosexuality thing- WHOA! :!: the whole Muslim FATIHA group thing- I didnt even know such a thing existed, but it is better not to mention it, sister “seeker” and whoever mentioned it since it is blasphemy and should have absolutely no relevence to this topic. All I gotta say on this one is La Hawla Wa la Quwata Illa Billah!

  28. 28 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    Salam Neutral,

    you are right. I don’t mean to publicize this group about homosexual people. They came to our campus and we had some heated debate about the whole and they are the only group of Muslims I know that are like this organized and stuff. However, I don’t think it’s right for us to really say anything so that more people will get to know about them. I apologize.

    Haseeb, if you could just edit that part out from my comment, that would be awesome.

    Thanks for the update on the meccaone again.

    JazakAllah khair

  29. 29 also from: United States usyour flag

    dude just one more reply.

    molded: huh?

    well, why is marriage considered half of faith because marriage is the final molding of the person. So yeah, people can be molded after marriage.

    Brother mentioned that Allah (SWT) guided him through his fiance, heck, he was molded by her da’wah.

    So there is such thing as changing and molding and correcting through da’wah that wives can give their husbands and vice versa. No one is perfect and to imply perfection before marriage is ludicrous and niavete.

  30. 30 also from: United States usyour flag

    self respect?

    you can have a sense of self respect and a domineering personality to know that you can do soemthing called molding.

    Please post on here after you have good luck in finding yours truely, then I will ask you.

    Apparrently the sad examples you gave of women taking off their hijab due to their husband’s influences were being “molded” by their husbands.

    Now if they were stronger and meaner than their husbands than they would be successful in making them wear kufis or getting divorced.

    whatever…..

  31. 31 Faisel from: Canada cayour flag

    Assalam alaikum,

    Brother Haseeb, could you please speak to Br Omair Ali to see if you can post the entire media interview on your website? I would really like to listen to it, as it would be a great naseeah for everyone.

    Saalams

  32. 32 seeker from: United States usyour flag

    Apparently, “also” lost his temper, which shows wekaness. And given that I was not asking for any argument at all, it’s actually funny. At least I had to chuckle in this traumatizing mid term week.

    About molding: I think Omair Ali actually asked Imam Zaid about this. Maybe you should wait till the lecture gets put up on the web (second part) and hopefully you will understand it better.

    About self-respect: Even though we are both speaking English, you are not understanding my language. So I will refrain from commenting on it anymore.

    About the said sister taking off hijab: no one is molding anyone here. She ain’t being molded, she is being “forced”, because she is in a compromised situation. Remember, not every woman on earth is financially independent to say “fine I will leave you alone”. A divorced woman in many culture do not get any support even from their own parents. Even though we trust in Allah (SWT), we also need to tie our camel. Just b/c a divorce is not that easy when you don’t have any support, and I can go on and on about it, but who’s got time? And my question is, why would I even go to that extent to seek a divorce? Wouldn’t that be nice not to have married anyone like him?

    Why would I want to be meaner than my husband? Why couldn’t I be nice to him and still be who I am?

    “post on here after finding…”
    HAHAHA….. you know, I am not that desperate about marriage and neither do I feel too strongly about proving myself right. The fact that you are implying that there is no such brother/guy who can think of himself being in a good condition (as far as his deen in concerned) is sad, because, there are plenty of brothers outthere, who will disagree with you. (or so I hope)

  33. 33 F M I from: Great Britain (UK) gbyour flag

    Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh,

    Is the audio for “Muslim guy shortage” available any where on the internet? I can’t find it on MeccaOne’s website. Jazakumullahu Khayran

  34. 34 hellonavi from: France fryour flag

    Is the audio for “Muslim guy shortage” available any where on the internet? I can’t find it on MeccaOne’s website.

    Lots of people want to listen to this…

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